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	<title>Comments on: I do not endorse PMAC Certification</title>
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		<title>By: George Dinwiddie</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2009/12/07/i-do-not-endorse-pmac-certification/comment-page-1/#comment-101104</link>
		<dc:creator>George Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for responding, Kevin.  I&#039;m glad it was just a misunderstanding and apologize for overreacting.  I rescind my final paragraph of my posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for responding, Kevin.  I&#8217;m glad it was just a misunderstanding and apologize for overreacting.  I rescind my final paragraph of my posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Aguanno</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2009/12/07/i-do-not-endorse-pmac-certification/comment-page-1/#comment-101103</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Aguanno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This appears to be just a big misunderstanding.  

I had suggested to the PMAC webmaster, Charles (Tak Keung) Sin, who also handles the AgilePM.com site, that he put up a sidebar on the abovementioned web pages listing anything positive that people are saying publicly about the new certification -- the intent was not to say that these people are &quot;endorsing&quot; the program.  

Clearly, Charles misinterpreted the instruction and also misunderstood the implications of the word &quot;endorse&quot; -- English is not his first language. 

The PMAC and myself did fail in vetting the changes Charles made to the web sites -- we are all volunteers with other demands on our time, but we still should have reviewed the changes before they were posted.  I personally accept responsibility for failing to review the changes; however, there was no underlying &quot;sleazy&quot; intent, and I would argue that the accusation of fraud is a little heavy handed in this case.

When I was contacted by George about the quote and his objection to it, I told him I would have it rectified immediately, and offered him my personal apology.  I immediately contacted Charles and instructed him to remove the quotes from the two web pages as soon as he could.  The changes were made within 30 minutes, and you can see from the timestamps on the above two postings that this seems to be verified by other observers.

Again:  there was NEVER any intent to cause grief here for anyone.  No misquoting or &quot;sleazy&quot; activity was intended -- this was all just a big misunderstanding between myself and my offshore webmaster.

If anyone wants to discuss this further, they can contact me via email at kevin@AgilePM.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This appears to be just a big misunderstanding.  </p>
<p>I had suggested to the PMAC webmaster, Charles (Tak Keung) Sin, who also handles the AgilePM.com site, that he put up a sidebar on the abovementioned web pages listing anything positive that people are saying publicly about the new certification &#8212; the intent was not to say that these people are &#8220;endorsing&#8221; the program.  </p>
<p>Clearly, Charles misinterpreted the instruction and also misunderstood the implications of the word &#8220;endorse&#8221; &#8212; English is not his first language. </p>
<p>The PMAC and myself did fail in vetting the changes Charles made to the web sites &#8212; we are all volunteers with other demands on our time, but we still should have reviewed the changes before they were posted.  I personally accept responsibility for failing to review the changes; however, there was no underlying &#8220;sleazy&#8221; intent, and I would argue that the accusation of fraud is a little heavy handed in this case.</p>
<p>When I was contacted by George about the quote and his objection to it, I told him I would have it rectified immediately, and offered him my personal apology.  I immediately contacted Charles and instructed him to remove the quotes from the two web pages as soon as he could.  The changes were made within 30 minutes, and you can see from the timestamps on the above two postings that this seems to be verified by other observers.</p>
<p>Again:  there was NEVER any intent to cause grief here for anyone.  No misquoting or &#8220;sleazy&#8221; activity was intended &#8212; this was all just a big misunderstanding between myself and my offshore webmaster.</p>
<p>If anyone wants to discuss this further, they can contact me via email at <a href="mailto:kevin@AgilePM.com">kevin@AgilePM.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Kern</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2009/12/07/i-do-not-endorse-pmac-certification/comment-page-1/#comment-98277</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Kern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, it&#039;s been removed. You can see what it looked like here: http://skitch.com/jonkern/nktpd/pmac-certificate-in-agile-project-management-the-project-management-association-of-canada-association-de-management-de-projet-du-canada#ndcu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, it&#8217;s been removed. You can see what it looked like here: <a href="http://skitch.com/jonkern/nktpd/pmac-certificate-in-agile-project-management-the-project-management-association-of-canada-association-de-management-de-projet-du-canada#ndcu" rel="nofollow">http://skitch.com/jonkern/nktpd/pmac-certificate-in-agile-project-management-the-project-management-association-of-canada-association-de-management-de-projet-du-canada#ndcu</a></p>
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		<title>By: George Dinwiddie</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2009/12/07/i-do-not-endorse-pmac-certification/comment-page-1/#comment-98275</link>
		<dc:creator>George Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I called Kevin Aguanno on his cell phone and requested that these be removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called Kevin Aguanno on his cell phone and requested that these be removed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Levison</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2009/12/07/i-do-not-endorse-pmac-certification/comment-page-1/#comment-98273</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Levison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is way out of bounds. He seems to have removed all references to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is way out of bounds. He seems to have removed all references to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Heusser</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2009/12/07/i-do-not-endorse-pmac-certification/comment-page-1/#comment-98268</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Heusser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man, we don&#039;t always see eye-to-eye one everything, but I totally support your stance here.  Let me know if there is anything I can do to help, blog a reaction or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man, we don&#8217;t always see eye-to-eye one everything, but I totally support your stance here.  Let me know if there is anything I can do to help, blog a reaction or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Waltzer</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2009/12/07/i-do-not-endorse-pmac-certification/comment-page-1/#comment-98266</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Waltzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are legal implications to giving an endorsement.  You want to make them take it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are legal implications to giving an endorsement.  You want to make them take it down.</p>
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		<title>By: George Dinwiddie</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2009/12/07/i-do-not-endorse-pmac-certification/comment-page-1/#comment-98265</link>
		<dc:creator>George Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arggh! The same quote is listed on http://www.agilepm.com/courses-agilecertification-basic.html as an endorsement.  Isn&#039;t it customary to ask permission before representing something as an endorsement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arggh! The same quote is listed on <a href="http://www.agilepm.com/courses-agilecertification-basic.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.agilepm.com/courses-agilecertification-basic.html</a> as an endorsement.  Isn&#8217;t it customary to ask permission before representing something as an endorsement?</p>
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