Comments on: Agile Compensation http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/ Effective software development Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:35:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.6 by: 7 tips to compensate your agile team… « Paircoaching’s Weblog http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/#comment-23843 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:17:52 +0000 http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/#comment-23843 [...] 7 tips to compensate your agile team… Posted on January 28, 2008 by paircoaching George Dinwiddie wrote about agile compensation yesterday. I agree with the idea’s he is writing about, I don’t agree with the link he points to. That compensation list is all about personal compensation. In fact some of them kill team momentum. So I wrote my own compensating tips. [...] […] 7 tips to compensate your agile team… Posted on January 28, 2008 by paircoaching George Dinwiddie wrote about agile compensation yesterday. I agree with the idea’s he is writing about, I don’t agree with the link he points to. That compensation list is all about personal compensation. In fact some of them kill team momentum. So I wrote my own compensating tips. […]

]]> by: YvesHanoulle http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/#comment-22568 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:46:07 +0000 http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/#comment-22568 "the good of the whole"is too large for me. I also like the fact David looks at the organization. I feel there is a lot missing between Individual & Organization. I agree with Ilja that external motivation can kill internal motivation. I wrote about that a few weeks ago... http://paircoaching.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/intrinsic-motivation-what-motivates-you-in-your-project/ “the good of the whole”is too large for me.
I also like the fact David looks at the organization. I feel there is a lot missing between Individual & Organization.

I agree with Ilja that external motivation can kill internal motivation.
I wrote about that a few weeks ago…
http://paircoaching.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/intrinsic-motivation-what-motivates-you-in-your-project/

]]> by: George Dinwiddie http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/#comment-22558 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:35:34 +0000 http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/#comment-22558 Ilja, I agree that money is a lousy reward mechanism. But not getting money when others around you are, is terribly de-motivating. I've seen too many situations where sales and marketing get rewards for good times, but engineering doesn't. Yves, while David Maister's list is undoubtedly built with individual contributors at the forefront, I don't think it's anti-team. In fact, his second point is "It encourages working for the good of the whole." One thing about David's list is that it considers the needs of the organization, too. I like that. After all, that's generally the point of view of those creating compensation systems. Your list is a good elaboration of "working for the good of the whole." Ilja, I agree that money is a lousy reward mechanism. But not getting money when others around you are, is terribly de-motivating. I’ve seen too many situations where sales and marketing get rewards for good times, but engineering doesn’t.

Yves, while David Maister’s list is undoubtedly built with individual contributors at the forefront, I don’t think it’s anti-team. In fact, his second point is “It encourages working for the good of the whole.”

One thing about David’s list is that it considers the needs of the organization, too. I like that. After all, that’s generally the point of view of those creating compensation systems.

Your list is a good elaboration of “working for the good of the whole.”

]]> by: YvesHanoulle http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/#comment-22528 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:17:32 +0000 http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/#comment-22528 I do agree with the idea in your post. I do not agree with the link to David Maister as his tips are tips fro personal compensation that don't always work in team environments. I have put a list of 7 tips on my blog http://paircoaching.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/7-tips-to-compensate-your-agile-team/ I do agree with the idea in your post. I do not agree with the link to David Maister as his tips are tips fro personal compensation that don’t always work in team environments.
I have put a list of 7 tips on my blog
http://paircoaching.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/7-tips-to-compensate-your-agile-team/

]]> by: Ilja Preuß http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/#comment-22516 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:59:39 +0000 http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/01/27/agile-compensation/#comment-22516 Perhaps - and just perhaps - the compensation system primarily being a reward system contributes to the problem? I'm not even convinced that "more money" is the best reward you can give, anyway - far from... Perhaps - and just perhaps - the compensation system primarily being a reward system contributes to the problem?

I’m not even convinced that “more money” is the best reward you can give, anyway - far from…

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