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	<title>Comments on: Making TDD and Java Swing behave</title>
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		<title>By: gdinwiddie</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2007/05/09/making-tdd-and-java-swing-behave/comment-page-1/#comment-3884</link>
		<dc:creator>gdinwiddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 03:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy,

I wasn&#039;t able to get Abbot to manipulate the JComboBox via text input, but maybe that&#039;s my ignorance.

Certainly the Swing wrapper of JBehave is missing a lot of useful stuff, but I wouldn&#039;t call it critical.  And it&#039;s not even a project, itself.  It doesn&#039;t have a goal of being a framework for GUI TDD.  It just happens to do a fairly good job, having been created just to demonstrate JBehave.

Perhaps you&#039;d like to look at my earlier article where I tried out Abbot.  I&#039;d appreciate any feedback on it.  I found relatively little documentation on using Abbot for TDD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy,</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t able to get Abbot to manipulate the JComboBox via text input, but maybe that&#8217;s my ignorance.</p>
<p>Certainly the Swing wrapper of JBehave is missing a lot of useful stuff, but I wouldn&#8217;t call it critical.  And it&#8217;s not even a project, itself.  It doesn&#8217;t have a goal of being a framework for GUI TDD.  It just happens to do a fairly good job, having been created just to demonstrate JBehave.</p>
<p>Perhaps you&#8217;d like to look at my earlier article where I tried out Abbot.  I&#8217;d appreciate any feedback on it.  I found relatively little documentation on using Abbot for TDD.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Wall</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2007/05/09/making-tdd-and-java-swing-behave/comment-page-1/#comment-3880</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 02:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious to know in what ways this surpasses Abbot, since you don&#039;t mention them here.

Lack of automatic synchronization of generated events with the underlying components&#039; state, as well as lack of support for setting up and showing UI components on the EDT would seem to be critical omissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious to know in what ways this surpasses Abbot, since you don&#8217;t mention them here.</p>
<p>Lack of automatic synchronization of generated events with the underlying components&#8217; state, as well as lack of support for setting up and showing UI components on the EDT would seem to be critical omissions.</p>
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