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	<title>Comments on: Making TDD and Java Swing behave</title>
	<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2007/05/09/making-tdd-and-java-swing-behave/</link>
	<description>Effective software development</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: gdinwiddie</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2007/05/09/making-tdd-and-java-swing-behave/#comment-3884</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 03:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Timothy,

I wasn't able to get Abbot to manipulate the JComboBox via text input, but maybe that's my ignorance.

Certainly the Swing wrapper of JBehave is missing a lot of useful stuff, but I wouldn't call it critical.  And it's not even a project, itself.  It doesn't have a goal of being a framework for GUI TDD.  It just happens to do a fairly good job, having been created just to demonstrate JBehave.

Perhaps you'd like to look at my earlier article where I tried out Abbot.  I'd appreciate any feedback on it.  I found relatively little documentation on using Abbot for TDD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy,</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t able to get Abbot to manipulate the JComboBox via text input, but maybe that&#8217;s my ignorance.</p>
<p>Certainly the Swing wrapper of JBehave is missing a lot of useful stuff, but I wouldn&#8217;t call it critical.  And it&#8217;s not even a project, itself.  It doesn&#8217;t have a goal of being a framework for GUI TDD.  It just happens to do a fairly good job, having been created just to demonstrate JBehave.</p>
<p>Perhaps you&#8217;d like to look at my earlier article where I tried out Abbot.  I&#8217;d appreciate any feedback on it.  I found relatively little documentation on using Abbot for TDD.
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		<title>by: Timothy Wall</title>
		<link>http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2007/05/09/making-tdd-and-java-swing-behave/#comment-3880</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 02:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm curious to know in what ways this surpasses Abbot, since you don't mention them here.

Lack of automatic synchronization of generated events with the underlying components' state, as well as lack of support for setting up and showing UI components on the EDT would seem to be critical omissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious to know in what ways this surpasses Abbot, since you don&#8217;t mention them here.</p>
<p>Lack of automatic synchronization of generated events with the underlying components&#8217; state, as well as lack of support for setting up and showing UI components on the EDT would seem to be critical omissions.
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